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Tim Rowe (1130)
The Terrible Tims
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:56 pm Posts: 747 Location: In the garage,Sileby, LEICS GTM: Cox/Coupe
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Re: Libra hazard switch
As you've got a "plastic" car, I would say you need to check that all the ground wires (black) are connected to the negative of the battery. There may be a broken wire or crimp somewhere, which would cause a problem like you are describing.
Poor earth connections are notorious for developing faults in other circuits of the car, as they back feed.
Get a bulb holder, connect one side to the + of the battery and then touch all of the black wires, one at a time. If it doesn't light up, then this is where the fault is.
_________________ Tim Rowe
"Is est totus perfectus per fumi quod speculum"
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:23 pm |
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yazza54
On the Road
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:00 am Posts: 595
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Re: Libra hazard switch
I have;
Green - Live Permanent 12V Red/Black tracer - Ignition no reading, lights on I get 350 Ohms Black - Ignition/Lights - 2 Ohms (put live to this and dash lights come on) Blue/Purple - Ignition live 12V Green/White - Ignition - no reading, with lights on 11/12V Green/Red - Ignition - no reading, with lights on 11/12V Light Green/Orange - 5V with lights on Light Green/Purple - 5V with lights on
With regards to the switch the above lotus diagram is the correct one but the colours are different to mine.
Really appreciate this I'm having a right struggle!
Thanks
Ryan
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:28 pm |
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yazza54
On the Road
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:00 am Posts: 595
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Re: Libra hazard switch
Tim Rowe (1130) wrote: As you've got a "plastic" car, I would say you need to check that all the ground wires (black) are connected to the negative of the battery. There may be a broken wire or crimp somewhere, which would cause a problem like you are describing.
Poor earth connections are notorious for developing faults in other circuits of the car, as they back feed.
Get a bulb holder, connect one side to the + of the battery and then touch all of the black wires, one at a time. If it doesn't light up, then this is where the fault is. I understand what you mean and I agree but I still need to know how to wire the switch, because in trying to find a fault, thinking the switch was broke I ended up pulling all the wires off the switch in haste without noting down what went where. I think I've figured out that the Blue/Purple had lost it's live as I got nothing from that wire and that should be the Switch ignition live. It backs that idea up too because the indicators worked, but when pressing the switch it uses the switched live instead of the permanent and nothing worked. So if I'm right with the Blue/purple wire I just need to put the switch back on now. It's a little beyond me, if you could try to figure out what wires go where on the switch for me from the above post and switch diagram it'd be a massive help!
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:33 pm |
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Pantera2075
On the Road
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:38 am Posts: 740 Location: Stoke
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Re: Libra hazard switch
Right!
Get a jumper wire - (just a bit of wire) and jump Green to Green/White and Green/Red in turn. This should illuminate the indicators on each side in turn. If not, you have dodgy earths at the indicators themselves.
Then, wiring wise
Green to no.3 Blue/Purple to 2 Green/White to 4 Green/Red to 6
Black is incorrect. Run a new black cable from 7 to a good earth
Red/Black to 8
The other two to 1 and 5, if it doesn't work, swap these 2 around.
If it still doesn't work, find the hazard flasher unit, and check the black wire from this to earth.
If nothing, replace hazard flasher unit.
And that's as much as I can do from a distance.
_________________ GTM Libra, GTM Coupe, Siva Moonbug, GMC Safari And DeTomaso Pantera.
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:55 pm |
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yazza54
On the Road
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:00 am Posts: 595
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Re: Libra hazard switch
IT WORKS!!!!! Thankyou!!
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:44 pm |
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yazza54
On the Road
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:00 am Posts: 595
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Re: Libra hazard switch
Spoke too soon, one thing now...
Hazards work - Great!
If I put the headlights on the backlight doesn't come up for the clocks but my dials move? Then turn lights off and the dials go back down.
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:09 pm |
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Pantera2075
On the Road
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:38 am Posts: 740 Location: Stoke
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Re: Libra hazard switch
Unplug the Red/black wire, all it does is illuminate the switch (hopefully, can't tell from the diagram)
_________________ GTM Libra, GTM Coupe, Siva Moonbug, GMC Safari And DeTomaso Pantera.
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:36 pm |
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yazza54
On the Road
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:00 am Posts: 595
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Re: Libra hazard switch
Switch still lights up and problem still occurs... maybe its mixed up with another?
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:45 pm |
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Pantera2075
On the Road
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:38 am Posts: 740 Location: Stoke
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Re: Libra hazard switch
Are you on your old or new switch?
This can be a few different things:
In most likely order:
1 Swap the wires on 1 & 5 2 Dodgy earth on hazard flasher unit. 3 Dodgy earth on your clocks. 4 Dodgy earth on either front or more likely rear lights 5 Blown resistor inside the switch 6 Wrong hazard flasher
_________________ GTM Libra, GTM Coupe, Siva Moonbug, GMC Safari And DeTomaso Pantera.
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:02 pm |
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Pantera2075
On the Road
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:38 am Posts: 740 Location: Stoke
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Re: Libra hazard switch
I've had a good chin scratch.
As that red/black wire has no effect we must have a current leak from the hazard circuit into the sidelight circuit or vice versa - and the most likely cause of this is the earths for your indicators/lights themselves. Or possibly still a bad earth to your clocks or indicator stalk.
Whichever, it's tome to methodically check your earths - start with the rear light clusters.
_________________ GTM Libra, GTM Coupe, Siva Moonbug, GMC Safari And DeTomaso Pantera.
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:17 pm |
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