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I have a couple of stone chips on the Libra, one that needs the gel coat rebuilding...……… anybody any idea what colour the WHITE libra was????

Also considering fitting a rear ARB as I had both front and rear on the Spyder. Any views on handling if fitting only rear or only front? Or do both need to be fitted at the same time?


Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:46 am
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
Phil i have front and rear but i have disconnected the rear to try the car without and i feel the car rides better on bumpy B roads without the rear A/R bar as the suspension follows the road better just my opinion
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Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:14 pm
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I wouldn’t run the rear bar only.....unless you like the view from roadside hedges :D :shock:

No problem to run front only but rear only is really not advisable.


Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:34 pm
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Thanks. I'll keep the rear set up on the shelf then for another day and look at the front end first. Although I have to agree with Ian that the ride is good without and I find it more superior to the Spyder I had.


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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
The gel coat colours, unless custom mixed, all come from the RAL range so that's a good place to start looking.

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Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:46 pm
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
Phil out of interest did your spyder have 17 inch wheels ? Just be aware the gel coat colour may have faded over a period of time
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Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:06 pm
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
Re gel coat, no idea sorry.

Re ARB's having recently fitted them to my Spyder I wouldn't want to not have them! I fitted the front first and tried that for a while and then the rear. As has previously been said, front only is okay but rear only is a bad thing! (didn't test that theory though) Front should be much stiffer than the rear.

The car does ride better over bumps with none but the handling is a massive improvement with them. I've gone for home made and I've gone a bit stiffer than the standard GTM supplied version on the front (although the wide range of holes on the bottom wishbone means it can be softened massively) and probably about the same on the rear.

With the front only I noticed a big improvement in turn in and stability and, funnily enough, less body roll. There was a bit of tendency towards a feel of understeer when pushed though. After fitting the rear it brought the balance back to neutral and now just feels right, willing and eager to turn in but without the slight nervousness it used to have. Once loaded up the body roll is noticeably less and on track it seems to hang on much better and I can steer it on the throttle where before it would just snap into oversteer.

I'd not previously considered the need for an improvement for the road, it was mainly track day use that prompted me to add them, but now I've got them I notice the improvement on the road too. There is some additional jitteryness over bumps (when only one side hits a bump) but a small price to pay in my eyes.


Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:28 pm
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
re gelcoat colors, I got a DSM brochure with the colors from GTM. On this page you will find the scans of the 4 pages of the brochure:
http://midas.orba-design.com/index.php?dir=archive+cd%2Fbrochures+general%2F


Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:18 pm
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
Thanks for all
Yes the Spyder did have 17inch wheels
Re the ARB, have decided to shelve that for the moment........... so I do have refurbished rear ARB spare if anyone wants one
Colour chart is a great help, should I have bought a red one? I knew that was Ford Radiant Red from the Spyder days!!!!, but I do like the white
Cheers Phil


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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
Phil i asked because i tried a Libra with 17 inch wheels and for me the ride was rock solid and uncomfortable now this may have been down to the springs and shock settings but the setup on my car with 16 inch wheels is pretty comfortable
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:39 am
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
Ian. I am also running the Libra on 17inch wheels and have just put new tyres on using Toyo 205/40/17 away from some Goodyear ones. I now find the ride considerably more comfortable and a lot quieter which is a real bonus as I can now hear the radio without full volume :D
Having run both cars on 17 rims I find (not wishing to upset any Spyder owners) the Libra has more comfort when both were on the same tyre pressure and shocker settings. I guess this is down to longer springs on the Libra?


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Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:22 am
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
What a nice pair ?
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:03 pm
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
I have driven Toyo tyres, but found these too soft and wear out very quickly. The softness of the rubber and lack of stiffness in the tyre walls is the reason they feel comfortable, but steering will also be less precise. Good Years are very hard tyres as are Bridgestones. Last year I replaced my Bridgestones, because they were getting too old, wear was still nothing. I now drive Falkens, fantastic tyres. A good mix between comfort, wet weather road holding and precision. Unfortunately my specific tyre size wasn't available anymore and had to use a slightly bigger one. This was a mistake, turning circle is now too big and there hit the body at max compression. But if you can get the correct tyre size, Falkens are worth considering.


Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:29 am
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
It was a nice pair, but the Spyder has now gone to a new home :(
Toyo are soft, but for the amount of mileage I do 2 or 3 of years from them and I'm a happy man :D
As the tyres have just gone on, I'll look at Falkens next time.


Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:35 pm
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Post Re: Gel Coat Colour
Phil i thought the Spyder was going when we spoke at Stonleigh i agree about the Toyo have them on the TVR really good grip but not the longest life due to soft rubber but do not do enough mileage to worry about that.
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