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GTM-Marty
GTM delivered
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:28 am Posts: 29 Location: Carrickfergus
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 Radiator Hose
Want to get hoses to connect the front radiator to the engine. Does anyone know a good place online to purchase? Or can you purchase just lengths of radiator hose from the local autoparts shop?
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| Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:59 pm |
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Pantera2075
On the Road
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:38 am Posts: 740 Location: Stoke
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 Re: Radiator Hose
Either, go to a plumbing shop for copper pipe, then use flexis at the ends, or find a scrap Mr2 and pinch those - they're stainless 
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| Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:20 pm |
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GTM-Marty
GTM delivered
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:28 am Posts: 29 Location: Carrickfergus
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 Re: Radiator Hose
Just 1 inch pipes? Using solid copper pipes is more desirable than using flexi hoses i assume?
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| Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:24 pm |
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rossabitz
Looking like a GTM
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:18 pm Posts: 157 Location: HUNTINGDON,CAMBS
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 Re: Radiator Hose
Hi I used Ø28mm copper pipe and capillary elbows on my Coupe. Straight sections of rubber hose onto the radiator. The heater outlet "teed" into the return pipe in the tunnel. I used a tyre valve as a bleed at the top corner of the rad.
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| Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:50 pm |
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West
Admin, and Coupe Nutter
Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:34 pm Posts: 1769 Location: In the workshop GTM: Cox/Coupe
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 Re: Radiator Hose
The system will pressurise better with the minimal amount of compliance i.e flexi Hose. You need the system to pressurise to work effectively. I use 1 inch ally tube in the tunnel, stainless under the front, and some stainless in the rear.
West
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| Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:20 pm |
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gtmdriver
On the Road
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:44 am Posts: 632 Location: Chester le Street
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 Re: Radiator Hose
28mm copper for me.  These are the front pipes from the tunnel to the radiator.  These are the pipes linking the engine to the pipes in the tunnel. I used silicone hoses to link the rest. 
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| Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:05 am |
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CamelotR
Ready for SVA
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:22 pm Posts: 425
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 Re: Radiator Hose
I am also just planning the cooling system.
What do You think: the normal water pump is enough at idle to cool the engine safely? I am thinking about removing the pump and leaving the job for an electric instead.
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| Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:28 pm |
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gtmdriver
On the Road
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:44 am Posts: 632 Location: Chester le Street
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 Re: Radiator Hose
I played safe and fitted a Davies Craig EWP80 electric pump.
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| Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:40 pm |
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minitici
Looking like a GTM
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:45 am Posts: 189 Location: Scotland [GTMOC 1190] GTM: Cox/Coupe
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 Re: Radiator Hose
CamelotR wrote: I am also just planning the cooling system.
What do You think: the normal water pump is enough at idle to cool the engine safely? I am thinking about removing the pump and leaving the job for an electric instead. I've had problems with my front radiator in the GTM not flowing any water below about 3000rpm. Just too much restriction in the pipes and bends. Then of course you are likely to get impeller cavitation above 7000rpm The Craig-Davies (sic) electric water pump is definitely a good idea.
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| Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:19 pm |
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CamelotR
Ready for SVA
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:22 pm Posts: 425
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 Re: Radiator Hose
If I go for an electric pump, I would like to remove the old pump from the system to save a couple of hps above 5000rpm.
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| Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:01 am |
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Andy
Ready for SVA
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:22 pm Posts: 363 Location: Ireland
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 Re: Radiator Hose
I use to run the Davies/Craig pump on my race mini with a blanking plate over the old waterpump housing, it was brilliant but I found it didn't work efficiently as the pump pumps to quickly for the small amount of water in a mini.l I reduced the voltage going into to about 6v (my own variable resistor) and once this was done it worked perfectly. They are suspectable to damage from heat as they are only nylon, keep it out of the engine bay.
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| Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:50 pm |
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gtmdriver
On the Road
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:44 am Posts: 632 Location: Chester le Street
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 Re: Radiator Hose
You can wire it in 3 ways.
1 running all the time the ignition is on
2 wired through a thermostatic switch
3 wired through their controller which modulates the speed according to temperature.
If you choose options 2 or 3 you can wire it to a constant live so that, when you've turned the engine off, the pump will still circulate the water to avoid heat-soak problems.
You can keep the water pump body and pulley to maintain fan belt tension but remove the impeller to avoid power loss through the pump.
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| Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:23 pm |
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Andy
Ready for SVA
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:22 pm Posts: 363 Location: Ireland
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 Re: Radiator Hose
Yep thats the one, we used it to prevent heat soak after racing as well as providing better cooling at high rpm (8500+), the variable resistor was because I didn't want to spend the money on their controller as thats all it is a glorified variable resistor. I had mine conected through a switch so I could turn it on and off as required, I also had a warning light rigged to the pump to show if the pump failed as this seemed to be an initial problem we found if the units got too hot.
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| Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:47 pm |
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