Fitting A+ engine into a Coupe
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malc jones
Part built GTM
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:58 pm Posts: 76 Location: Holmfirth, West Yorkshire
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 Fitting A+ engine into a Coupe
Hi everyone, my first post for a long time. My coupe Q231JCP has always had 'A Series' units but I broke the crankshaft, damaged the block slightly and wore a gouge completely through the gearbox casing on the way home from Newark last year so it has languished in the garage for a fair while. I may need to put an 'A+' unit in it and whilst I am aware that an inertia starter will work if the correct starter ring is fitted, does anyone know of any obstruction issues with the pre engage unit sat on top of the pre engage type of starter motor. Does any part of the framework or chassis obstruct its accomodation or removal from the engine? Also are there any problems of clearance using a Verto type clutch? Keep busy. Cheers, Malc Jones (181)
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| Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:30 pm |
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Tim Rowe (1130)
The Terrible Tims
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:56 pm Posts: 747 Location: In the garage,Sileby, LEICS GTM: Cox/Coupe
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There are two types of verto starter motor. One has the solenoid mounted at 9 o clock and the other the solenoid if at 10 o clock. It's the 10 o clock one that you need if you are going verto. Personally I think pre verto is better though. I can't remember which is which but one of the starters is from the mini and the other is metro. I have a feeling the 10 o clock one is from the metro, as it needs to clear the radiator. Now all you've got to decide on is do you take it out of the top, or drop the subframe out of the bottom. 
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| Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:40 pm |
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Andy
Ready for SVA
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:22 pm Posts: 363 Location: Ireland
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 Re: Fitting A+ engine into a Coupe
I have a A+ engine in mine with a pre engaged mini starter in mine and it fits JUST, didn't know about the other Metro starter but the engine otherwise will fit fine.
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| Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:52 pm |
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Tim Rowe (1130)
The Terrible Tims
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:56 pm Posts: 747 Location: In the garage,Sileby, LEICS GTM: Cox/Coupe
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_________________ Tim Rowe
"Is est totus perfectus per fumi quod speculum"
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| Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:05 pm |
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Allen7
Looking like a GTM
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:07 pm Posts: 161
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 Re: Fitting A+ engine into a Coupe
Sounds like you could swap the flywheel, clutch, wok and starter motor over, no need to change clutch slave cylinder then.
Regards,
Allen
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| Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:18 pm |
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Andy
Ready for SVA
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:22 pm Posts: 363 Location: Ireland
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 Re: Fitting A+ engine into a Coupe
Yeah that would make it easier but thats very expensive seeing I only paid 15 euro for mine, and the ad doesn't say that this item is even new?
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| Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:35 am |
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Tim Rowe (1130)
The Terrible Tims
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:56 pm Posts: 747 Location: In the garage,Sileby, LEICS GTM: Cox/Coupe
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I'd guess that it is a reconditioned one. I'm using a modified one, which is about the same as the verto starter, but works with the pre verto ring gear. It's from something like a mitsubishi. Part of my de-lucasing of the electrical system. But I've also modified my bulkhead, so that there is more room for it. 
_________________ Tim Rowe
"Is est totus perfectus per fumi quod speculum"
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| Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:40 am |
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malc jones
Part built GTM
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:58 pm Posts: 76 Location: Holmfirth, West Yorkshire
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 Re: Fitting A+ engine into a Coupe
Thanks chaps for all that help. I thought that all pre engage starter motor solenoids were at 12 o'clock and the info about 9 o'clock and 10 o'clock explains all. I now understand that a 9 o'clock fitting could foul on the bulkhead.
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| Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:51 am |
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