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sanzomat
GTM Nirvana
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:10 pm Posts: 1170 Location: Bristol GTM: Spyder
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 Re: Paul's k3
Just been doing a bit of reading on Metro sites as well as on here.
Everything seems to suggest that the hub end of r65 shafts and PG1 shafts should be identical. Mgf rear hubs are supposed to be identical to metro front hubs. Lots of metro owners seem to have had no trouble using PG1 shafts on their metros.
Are K3 rear hubs metro front hubs?
Libra/Spyder rear hubs are simply Metro front hubs so they should fit either drive shaft.
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| Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:16 pm |
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catsam
On the Road
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:32 pm Posts: 501 Location: Norfolk GTM: Libra
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 Re: Paul's k3
Hi I could not get the mgf drive shaft in the metro hub so tried the other metro shaft in the old mgf hub it did not fit I think it is 1mm bigger I had to go to work so will try to get the metro cv off and see if it fits the mgf one
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| Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:21 pm |
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sanzomat
GTM Nirvana
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:10 pm Posts: 1170 Location: Bristol GTM: Spyder
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 Re: Paul's k3
According to rimmer bros the part number for the metro hub drive flange is identical to the part number for the MGF one which supports the theory that the hub ends of the driveshafts should be the same. Very odd that they aren't on yours. you aren't putting the diff end into the hub are you???
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| Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:08 pm |
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catsam
On the Road
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:32 pm Posts: 501 Location: Norfolk GTM: Libra
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 Re: Paul's k3
you are right dave rimmer bros do have the same part number um very odd I have the drive shaft in the diff I did not have much time to have a good look at it. to see how tight are the mgf driveshafts are in the hub I did not wont to jam them in as the metro ones slide in they could just be rusty big thanks for all your help
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bubbleless
Part built GTM
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:26 pm Posts: 121 Location: Chorley, Lancashire GTM: K3
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 Re: Paul's k3
I think he may be able to put the correct end of a drive shaft into the hub........
Just in case, unscrew the nut then insert into drive flange.
The numbers "should" match and the cv's "should" fit...
MGF Front Right Hub - RUB10008 (non ABS) MGF Front Left Hub - RUB10009 (non ABS) MGF Trophy Front Right Hub - RFB100120 (ABS) or RFB000020 MGF Trophy Front Left Hub - RFB100130 (ABS) or RFB000030 MGTF Front Right Hub - RUB10008 (non ABS) MGTF Front Left Hub - RUB10009 (non ABS) MGTF Front Right Hub - RFB100120 (ABS) MGTF Front Left Hub - RFB100130 (ABS) Rover100 Front Right Hub - RUB10008 Rover100 Front Left Hub - RUB10009
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| Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:11 am |
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sanzomat
GTM Nirvana
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:10 pm Posts: 1170 Location: Bristol GTM: Spyder
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 Re: Paul's k3
Comment about shafts being the wrong way round was meant to be a flippant one, not meant seriously - hope not taken the wrong way (no pun!) 
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| Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:29 am |
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cubera
GTM delivered
Joined: Wed May 22, 2013 8:58 pm Posts: 48
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 Re: Paul's k3
My Libras both have Metro rear hubs, modified with eccentric bushes to take MGF calipers. They have PG1 gearboxes VVC engines and MGF driveshafts - no problems fitting. I don't suppose you have A-series drive flanges by any chance - These I don't think will fit. Otherwise there should be no problem, except for rust or damage.
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| Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:30 am |
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catsam
On the Road
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:32 pm Posts: 501 Location: Norfolk GTM: Libra
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 Re: Paul's k3
hi I have just been out and measured the diameter of the diver shafts and there is not much in 0.55  I do not know if I have A-series drive flanges it could be that the mgf ones are just a tight fit which would explain why I could not get them out of the hub. as you can just see I had to hit it and I might have bent the end of the shaft flat as I had trouble getting them out. I think I will change the cv ends over The comment about shafts being the wrong way around was funny I did have trouble getting the end in the diff until I unscrewed the nut 
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| Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:43 am |
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sanzomat
GTM Nirvana
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:10 pm Posts: 1170 Location: Bristol GTM: Spyder
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 Re: Paul's k3
So the mgf one is the one on the left? (bent end and ABS reluctor ring) - if so that one is the smaller one! It does look like there is some corrosion on the splines so thats probably why it was tight. My MGF ones are already removed so that's one problem I shouldn't have! My R65 shaft were moved only about 16 months ago when the previous owner put the 1.6 in so hopefully they won't be seized in, might give them a good squirt of penetrating oil though! Given the damage to that end it looks like you'd have been swapping the CV over anyway!
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| Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:18 pm |
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catsam
On the Road
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:32 pm Posts: 501 Location: Norfolk GTM: Libra
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 Re: Paul's k3
Its all fixed all I did was change over the ends simple
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| Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:40 pm |
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bubbleless
Part built GTM
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:26 pm Posts: 121 Location: Chorley, Lancashire GTM: K3
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 Re: Paul's k3
Glad I could help. 
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| Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:59 pm |
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catsam
On the Road
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:32 pm Posts: 501 Location: Norfolk GTM: Libra
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 Re: Paul's k3
a big thanks to all I have just tried the short drive shaft in the hub and it fits I must have damaged the long one getting it out of the mgf hub. thanks to all that helped looking up part numbers reading on Metro sites and things the size difference must just be down to wear on the metro part so the parts should fit NOPE DO FIT I have just pop them in panic over it was a good job I did not change it all to the mgf suspension before asking for help so where was I two days ago
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| Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:58 am |
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bubbleless
Part built GTM
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:26 pm Posts: 121 Location: Chorley, Lancashire GTM: K3
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 Re: Paul's k3
Glad you asked and checked, one more thing for men not to worry about when I finally do mine. 
_________________ Car has a high power to weight ratio and is really quick...........
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| Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:55 am |
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sanzomat
GTM Nirvana
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:10 pm Posts: 1170 Location: Bristol GTM: Spyder
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 Re: Paul's k3
And me! Good result! And we've also learnt to give the driveshaft flanges a good squirt of penetrating oil at the start of the strip!
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| Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:46 pm |
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bubbleless
Part built GTM
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:26 pm Posts: 121 Location: Chorley, Lancashire GTM: K3
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 Re: Paul's k3
Just a thought about rebuilding stuff so you can get it apart again. A thin layer of Copper grease on the thread stops stuff seizing and makes disassemble easy, thin smear on the cv splines makes removal easy.
Do not use on things that need Thread locker on them like flywheel bolts.
Great on wheel nuts, and you don't need alot. and for the price its worth keeping the skin on your knuckles , and the bolts in one piece.
_________________ Car has a high power to weight ratio and is really quick...........
The owner isn't
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| Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:53 pm |
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